Saturday, August 15, 2009

What's In A Name?

Who knows where or even when Barack Hussein Obama was born? We can't even be assured that his name is in fact legally Barack Hussein Obama!

The phony exhibit shown on the Internet via Factcheck.org., Daily KOS, and Obama's own campaign website was claimed to be a photocopy of an Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth for one Barack Hussein Obama, natality August 4, 1961. But that document was proven to be a complete fabrication built from many layers of photoshop material, and the Vital Records department in Hawaii has stated that they did not issue a CoLB for Obama in June 2007 (that's the date bleeding through from the reverse side of the forgery, a forgery which had no raised stamp, also; later exhibits showed the raised stamp)! The first exhibit, the obvious forgery, has been scrubbed from the Internet, although it is cached at several safe locations not accessible to Factcheck and Daily Kos, awaiting court scrutiny if a suit ever makes it to the discovery phase.

Was this 'greater than Allah' liar-in-chief born somewhere else and his grandmother registered him in Hawaii, so he could be an American citizen through the very slack Hawaiian birth registry system which didn't even require more than someone applying for a BC without any proof except the sworn statement from the applicant seeking registry for the child?

Was the name on the first registry Barry Dunham, with 'father un-named'?

Since no marriage license has ever surfaced for Stanley Ann Dunham and Barak Obama, even with a divorce decree from 1964, there is no proof that Barack Hussein Obama, pres_ _ent, is in fact the actual biological son of Barak Obama, Kenyan.

Barack Obama might have been born in Kenya, in 1961, or even in Canada in 1961, and even in Hawaii in 1961. Without documents from credible sources the American people are being treated to the middle finger from Barry Obama (Barry Obama was one of the names he used in High School and college), as if we the people have no right to require an affirmative action applicant provide proof dictated by the law that is the Constitution!

In reply to Barry Obama's 'Screw you, America, I'm not divulging my past to you peons', I'm going to offer a little lesson in applied reasoning based upon known facts from Barry's lie, er, I mean life.

First, some conjecture: if the child born to Stanley Ann Dunham did not have a father listed upon first registry in Hawaii, we may accept that when Barak Obama-Kenyan allowed himself to be successfully sued for divorce in 1964, he allowed the name Barack Hussein Obama to be registered in Hawaii for the child, even if he, Barak Obama-Kenyan, was not the biological father. So, we may now move on to what is not conjecture.

A few years after receiving a court divorce from Barak Obama (that is the way the Kenyan spelled his own name), Stanley Ann married one Lolo Soetoro, Indonesian. The wedding happened in Hawaii, but a marriage cert for that event has not yet surfaced. Shortly after or at the time of marrying Stanley Ann, Lolo formally adopted little Barack, in Hawaii, and named him officially Barry Soetoro, passing Indonesian citizenship to the little guy.

Within a few months Lolo was off to Indonesia and then points further away, doing his job for a petroleum company. Stanley Ann followed him to Indonesia within a few more months, bringing Barry along. Barry Soetoro went to school in Indonesia. That's where he learned to recite so perfectly the call to Islamic prayer.

Stanley Ann was officially an Indonesian via her marriage to Lolo Soetoro, so she likely traveled to Indonesia with her son Barry using Indonesian passports ... contrary to lies circulating on the Internet, even a child of four was required to have a passport/Visa to travel into Indonesia from Hawaii.

Within a few years, Lolo was no longer residing permanently with Stanley Ann, even though they had conceived a daughter named Maya. Stanley sent Barry back to Hawaii at age ten to live with his grandfather Stanley Dunham and grandmother Madelyn (Toot). Barry Soetoro entered the States on his Indonesian passport at age ten. We can be confident of that because he remained the adopted son of Lolo, named Barry Soetoro-Indonesian, until Stanley divorced Lolo in 1980.

Fast forward to 1979, June. Barry Obama (yes, he was using that name, though there is absolutely no indication that a formal name change had occurred in a court) graduates from an Hawaiian High School and in August of 1979 enters Occidental College in California, still legally named Barry Soetoro, though it is not clear whether he was allowed to enter Occi as Barry Obama without providing proof credentials for that name. BUT, he could have passed himself off as Barry Obama by showing some document from Hawaiian vital records dated to before he was adopted formally by Lolo Soetoro!

In 1980, Stanley Ann files in Hawaii for divorce from Lolo Soetoro who is already playing house with a different woman back in Indonesia. In her pleading to the court, Stanley Ann cites TWO children of the marriage whom Lolo is legally responsible to support, a minor child, Maya, and a child over eighteen who needs financial/educational assistance. That child is Barry Soetoro, student at Occidental College! In 1980, Barry is still legally Barry Soetoro, adopted son of Lolo Soetoro.

There is no documentation to show that Barry Soetoro ever made a formal legal name change to Barak/Barack Obama. Interestingly, Barry traveled to Indonesia and Pakistan (and perhaps to India, but it is not clear if he went into India or remained in the Pakistani side of a particular border city). As far as we may reason, the only passport ever issued for the son of Stanley Ann Dunham was an Indonesian passport which Barry traveled under at age four and age ten. It is possible, and in fact likely that Barry Soetoro traveled to Pakistan as an Indonesian citizen in 1982. Interesting also is the fact that Barack Obama's passport files were broken into THREE TIMES prior to the election of 2008! Barry traveled overseas in 1993, but we have no documentation to show what passport/nationality he traveled under then, either!

By the time Barry arrives at Columbia University in New York, he is calling himself Barak and Barry ... Obama. But he was a student at Columbia when he traveled to pakistan, so he was likely holding/using(?) two names at that time.

Fast forward to Barack Hussein Obama applying for the Bar Association in Illinois. When filling out the application, the current occupant of the Oval Office lied to the state by signing that he had used no other name than Barack Hussein Obama in his lifetime! I wonder if anyone in corrupt Chicago or the state of Illinois would find it of interest to see that this Barack Hussein Obama may still legally be Barry Soetoro?

And a couple of final notes. Not only was the first CoLB posted on Obama's campaign website and at Factcheck a forgery, the Selective Service registration exhibits Obama offered upon being questioned if he had ever registered for same, well, that material is obviously forged also. The 'stamped' date with the exhibit has his eighteenth year, but is shown as the named postal service which did not come into existence until later, and the typing is so bungled from erasure and type over, the document wouldn't pass a bank teller's scrutiny, much less a documents experts examination! And that faked CoLB the media is waving about from his website and Factcheck? Well a retired FBI documents expert has officially in sworn affidavit to Californai courts stated that the exhibit is not credible for court purposes!

The above facts are but part of why there are 'Birthers' like me still digging for the truth about the 44th Pres_ _ent. We still have no credible ID for this liar-in-chief David Axelrod, master of astroturfing, has foisted upon America.

4 comments:

smrstrauss said...

Re: "But that document was proven to be a complete fabrication built from many layers of photoshop material, and the Vital Records department in Hawaii has stated that they did not issue a CoLB for Obama in June 2007."

The Department of Health of Hawaii, which issues the Certifications of Live Birth has said no such thing. Moreover, the claims that this document were forged are complete baloney. Only two "experts" claim that this was a forgery and NEITHER of them will use his real name. IF the image was forged, John McCain would have used it in his campaign, and the Hawaiian government (which has a Republican governor) would have launched an investigation.

Instead, McCain's campaign checked out all all the birther claims, and concluded that there was nothing to them. (http://washingtonindependent.com/52474/mccain-campaign-investigated-dismissed-obama-citizenship-rumors)

The birth document that Obama posted is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and it is the only birth document that Hawaii currently sends out. (http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html)

The facts on the Certification of Live Birth have been twice checked by the officials in Hawaii and each time they state that there is an original birth certificate in the file (and in 1961 foreign birth certificates could not be filed in Hawaii). And the spokeswoman for the department told that Chicago Tribune that the statement about the original birth certificate in the file meant that Obama was born in Hawaii. (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html)

There is even a witness who recalls being told of the birth in Hawaii in 1961 (she does because she wrote a letter about the unusual event of a child being born to a mother named Stanley to her father, also named Stanley). (http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/554495.html)

This is what the Wall Street Journal wrote about birther claims:
"Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn."

M Galloway said...

The above comment is a bold lie, but a lie nonetheless.

Having phoned the Hawaiian Vital Records Department personally, I can attest that they will send out photostaticx copies of original vital records documents if a proper request is tended, such as a court order. It takes a lot longer to obtain such since a person must go physically into the vault to find and process the docuemtn irequested, but contrary to the bold lie Jon Klein spittled through Lou Dobbs at CNN, the original vital records have not been destroyed, yet.

As to the exhibit Barak Obama first tried to foist as proof of his place of birth, that fake is easy to prove even over the Internet since that image had no rasied seal distorting the green hatch background of the exhibit, yet all later editions of the same forgery did have a rasied seal.

A liar will try to sell lies by making such assertions as 'John McCain's campaign checked out all of the cvlaims of the birthers' ... of course the liar posing such a whopper cannot have any way to know that is a true statement only that he/she made it up.

And one other deceit the commenter has tried to float here and at Freerepublic.com: the State of Hawaii has never, reapeaqt never, vouched for any of the exhibits the Obama and factcheck.org people have exhibited as genuine. In fact, when asked specifically about the exhibits displayed ont eh Internet, an Hawaiian Health Department official stated unequivocally that it would be impossible to know jsut what those exhibits represent.

There is in fact no provenance substantiated proof of a place of birth for Barack Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, aka Barry Obama. By his own admission on his website, Barak Obama isn't a natural born citizen as the founders used that term when writing the Constitution. Should Americans trust a man who tried to exhibit a clear fake ont eh Internet, who subsequently displayed other exhibits with no provenance? No, and the liars working to dissemble the truth of this glaring omission of facts are just as despicable.

As an example of the deceitful lawyeresque trickery, look at the way the commenter worded the following, trying to create the impression that the exhibits touted as genuine CoLBs have been verified by Hawaiian officials when the commenter knows well that they have not been so verified:
"The facts on the Certification of Live Birth have been twice checked by the officials in Hawaii and each time they state that there is an original birth certificate in the file ..." That is a planned effrot to deceive readers.

smrstrauss said...

Re: "Having phoned the Hawaiian Vital Records Department personally, I can attest that they will send out photostaticx copies of original vital records documents if a proper request is tended, such as a court order."

So they will send it to a court under a court order. How can Obama get a court order? Why should he get a court order when the official birth certificate of Hawaii is the Certification?

The notion that the document posted was forged is completely crazy. Don't you think that if it were clear that the document were forged McCain or Hillary Clinton would have been all over the situation? Don't you think that if there were anything wrong with the document, the FBI (which was under a Republican Administration at the time of the election) would have done something?

Obama provided the physical document to both FactCheck and Polifact. Moreover, it is the FACTS on the document that count, and Hawaii has twice authenticated the fact that there is an official birth certificate in the files (and Hawaii could not put a foreign birth certificate into its files in 1961).

The spokeswoman for the Department of Health of Hawaii has said that the statement that there is a original birth certificate in the files "in accordance with regulations" means that Obama was born in Hawaii. (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html)

In addition, there were notices of the birth placed in two Hawaii newspapers on the weekend after the birth. It has been confirmed that these notices were placed at the time by the Hawaii department of vital records (all the birth announcements follow exactly the same format). Notices were issued for children who were born in Hawaii, not for children born outside of Hawaii. In addition, there is this witness who recalls being told of the birth at the time. (http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/554495.html).

McCain's campaign checked out all all the birther claims, and concluded that there was nothing to them. (http://washingtonindependent.com/52474/mccain-campaign-investigated-dismissed-obama-citizenship-rumors).

Re: "In fact, when asked specifically about the exhibits displayed ont eh Internet, an Hawaiian Health Department official stated unequivocally that it would be impossible to know jsut what those exhibits represent.'

The Hawaii authorities were commenting that they could not authenticate the image on the Web. That is true, they cannot. However, they authenticated the FACTS on the document, one being that Obama was born in Hawaii.

No president has ever proven that he was born in the USA. Obama is the first to have shown his birth certificate. There is no proof that Obama was born anywhere else than Hawaii. His Kenyan grandmother did no say that he was born in Kenya. She said that he was born in Hawaii.

This is what the Wall Street Journal wrote about birther claims:
"Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn."

M Galloway said...

SMStrauss, lots of well positioned words, but still spin cycle Axelgreasy talking points. You're trying to deceive my readers.

Obama tried to foist a clear fraud upon the world with his first exhibit posted on the Internet (at Factcheck.org, the DailyKos, and the Obama 'FightTheSmears.com sites) ... it lacked a raised seal, so it was not an official document, not even a good forgery. If there had been a rasied seal the first time the fraud was psoted, the distortion to the green hatrchmarking background would have been impossible to miss.

Subsequently, when the lack of the seal was pointed out, a raised seal was added to the exact same exhibit which was posted the first time. Again, the second was no more authentic than the first fraud, just had a raised seal on it.

Sunbsequent to the second fraud being exposed, Obama's liars' platoon provided what they insist is an authentic CoLB, 'the same one used to make the first two' fraudulent images. But it was not the same document and there are telltale points which will be raised in court if it ever gets to trial. The first two exhibits were inauthentic and the thrid was not the same used for the first two frauds.

So, why would a poster to an obscure Internet blog go to so much trouble to lie for Obama? Why would this liar purposely ignore the truth that Obama posted a fraud, twice, before presenting some physical exhibit to Factcheck. org?

BTW, do you use the handle 'WOSG' on other websites, liar?